ai Tenchi Sales

[Dr.Soviet]

Top 8
*2,829　*1　Donten ni Warau　[BD-BOX+DVD-BOX]　2015/01/21　[BD: 1,287, DVD: 1,542]
*2,609　*1　Girlfriend (Kari)　[BD+DVD]　2015/01/21　[BD: 1,961, DVD: 648]
Fall 2014 Top 8 (currently)
11,899 *2 Yowamushi Pedal Grande Road [DVD+BD]: 2015/01/21
10,690 *6 Yuuki Yuuna wa Yuusha de Aru [BD+DVD]: 2014/12/17
*8,509 *5 Shirobako [BD+DVD]: 2014/12/24
*8,207 *4 Cross Ange [BD+DVD]: 2014/12/24
*5,324 *2 Gundam G no Reconquista [BD+DVD]: 2014/12/25 *8,134 vol 2. sales
*7,473 *3 Amagi Brilliant Park [BD+DVD]: 2014/12/26
*7,427 *1 Psycho-Pass 2 [BD+DVD]: 2014/12/17
*6,621 *1 Nanatsu no Taizai [BD+DVD]: 2015/01/28



---- Manabi Line (2,899) ----
*1,919　*3　Inou Battle wa Nichijou-kei no Naka de　[BD]　2014/12/26　[1,919~1,923]
*1,882　*2　Terraformars　[BD+DVD]　2014/12/19　[BD: 1,366~1,384, DVD: 516~518]
*1,337　*1　Ai Tenchi Muyou!　[BD+DVD]　2015/01/21　[BD: 1,107, DVD: 230~235] 
*1,294　*2　Danna ga Nani wo Itteiru ka Wakaranai Ken　[BD+DVD]　2015/01/16　[BD: 1,071~1,073, DVD: 223]
*1,188　*2　Hi☆sCoool! Seha Girls　[BD]　2014/12/02　[1,188~1,208]
*1,114　*2　Hitsugi no Chaika AVENGING BATTLE　[BD]　2014/12/26　[1,114~1,118]
**,956　*2　Daitoshokan no Hitsujikai　[BD]　2014/12/25　[956~957]
**,746　*1　Ookami Shoujo to Kuro Ouji　[BD+DVD]　2014/12/24　[BD: 315~317, DVD: 431~432]
**,622　*1　Denkigai no Honya-san　[BD]　2014/12/24　[622~626]
**,464　*1　Gundam Build Fighters Try　[BD-BOX+DVD]　2014/12/25　[DVD: 464~465, BD-BOX to be released on 2015/03/27]
**,419　*1　Ushinawareta Mirai wo Motomete　[BD]　2014/12/24　[419~422]

Bretty bad

[Ryokos Stepdad]

Inou Battle and Chaika are in the same neighborhood. If it wasn't for that original the ending do not steal I think Chaika would have been better.

>Trusting Bones 

[Tenchi Ryu]

Psycho Pass going good...potential season 3?

[onimono]

damn, that's pretty bad.

[Tenchi Ryu]

damn, that's pretty bad.

Negishi: Can I get the funds for a second season?

AIC:

[جبريل 無道]

For those who don't know the Manabi Line:

http://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/9238/is-the-manabi-line-a-correct-way-for-estimating-anime-profit-loss

Reading up on anime sales, I came across the term 'Manabi Line', which is said to be the amount of DVD sales that an anime needs to break even. The article in question quoted it to be about 2,899 sales.

Seemingly, the figure is based off of the amount of sales that the anime 'Manabi Straight' made, and barely broke even.

This seems to be a loose metric.  But another post on that link indicates any sales below 4 thousand units will be a fail of varying degress and over 6k will be success with a neutral zone in between.

http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?s=5250fa0f308d7665128b2875c418ed43&p=36590139&postcount=1

-Less than 1000: Complete failure for late night anime, but is common among mainstream/daytime anime, which rely on other methods to produce revenue such as ratings and merchandising. Examples of this would be Naruto, Bleach, OP, Fairy Tale, Detective Conan, and most noitaminA slot anime.

-1000-2000: Pretty much same as above. Some examples of recent late night anime that bombed like this would be LOLH, B Gata H Kei, and Ookami-san.

-2000-3000: Still a failure, but the show has at least some fans but didn't sale well for various reasons, whether they be not enough hype, relatively boring plot, or too :deep:. Some recent examples would be Occult Gakuin, Shin Koihime Musou, and UraBoku.

-3000-4000: This is around break even point for most anime, or as 2ch calls it, the Manabi line. It's not exactly a failure, since no money was lost, but it's not successful or a hit either, since no money was made. An example of this would be Arakawa Under the Bridge and Ichiban Ushiro.

-4000-5000: This is around where you start to see profit being made. Anime that sale in this area aren't what you would call hits, but it's still a decent accomplishment for late night anime. Recent examples are Ikkitousen Xtreme Xecutor and Mayoi Neko Overrun. An older one is all seasons of Zero no Tsukaima.

-5000-6000: This is where some of the more prominent anime among the niche market sale. By that, I mean the more memorable titles of a year. They aren't exactly hits in the sense that they're known among outside of otaku circles, but within them they're common names. Recent examples are Motto To LOVE-Ru, Hyakka Ryouran Samurai Girls, Amagami SS, and Kissxsis here.

-6000-7000: Very good for late night anime. Once again, not hits, but they're doing very well and are moderately popular among the niche market of otaku. This is still within the realm of the 5000-6000 area. Here you have your Seitokai Yakuindomo, BakaTest, and Sekirei ~Pure Engagement~.

-7000-8000: This is where you start to go from being niche within a niche to being broadly popular within the otaku niche. Could be considered a hit among otaku, although this is a sort of gray area in the the sense most anime don't sale exactly in this range, they're either with the 5000-7000 range or skip into double digits. The only anime that comes to my mind immediately that sales in this range are Katanagatari and HOTD.

-8000-10000: This is where you start to see the most memorable anime over years sale, extremely good for late night anime and a mile stone. Still a bit hesitant to call series in this area hits, but their at least extremely successful. The first DARKER THAN BLACK and Sengoku BASARA seasons sold in this area.

-10000-12000: Where you start to see anime staple marks at. These are the series that even people who aren't otaku will at least have seen or heard of somewhere. This are is ambiguous in the sense that stuff that sales higher initially end up here from sales tapering off a bit. Anime in this are usually have initial sales of around 15000-16000 or higher. Stuff like Strike Witches, Durarara!!, and the first season of Toaru Majutsu no Index end up here after the first few volumes. Toradora! and both seasons of Shakugan no Shana sold around this area. DARKER THAN BLACK: Ryuusei no Gemini also sold here.

-12000-15000: Most anime that end up in the 10000-12000 range overall start out selling around here. As stated above, first season of Index and both seasons of Strike Witches started out here. First season of Hakuouki and Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood also sale around this range. Sengoku BASARA Two sales in this area.

-15000-20000: Pretty much same as above.

-20000-30000: Durarara and Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood started out in this area but tapered off later on. This area is ambiguous in the sense that the only anime that consistently stay in this area over every volume are heavily otaku supported. Still, some of the most popular anime sales around here. Toaru Kagaku no Railgun, Azumanga Daioh, and Fate/stay night are the only anime I can think of that consistently sold in this range.

-30000-50000: Godly and legendary. This is where the household name or super popular otaku anime sale. First Fullmetal Alchemist, Macross Frontier, Code Geass, Gundam 00, Haruhi, Angel Beats!, Lucky Star!, K-ON!, etc.

-50000-80000: Nearly impossible. Only TV series that have sold here are Bakemonogatari, Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica, and Gundam SEED.

I'll be interested in how Disc 2 sales keep up.  The interest for Ai Tenchi Muyo (愛・天地無用) in google trends collapsed right after the first week of episodes, perhaps reflecting ratings.  I would suppose people buying the discs know what they are getting into, though.

[antvasima]

Just great. Negishi has probably permanently ruined our chances of seeing any real Tenchi series, such as ones based on Mister Kajishima's books.

[Gott161]

Why is negishi still allowed to touch the tenchi license?

[Lоиεѕомεиεѕѕ]

 

Are the numbers of sales accurate? Eh? Doesn't seem that bad for  愛・天地無用！, considering 愛・天地無用！'s characters and story development over given time per episode.  愛・天地無用！BDs/DVDs aren't worth buying, I'd think, and yet some are buying them. I find that somewhat odd. . .

[Dr.Soviet]

Ya pretty much only the hardcore fans are buying, Personally I don't mind SOME of the merchandise for the show.

[shades of blue]

The interest for Ai Tenchi Muyo (愛・天地無用) in google trends collapsed right after the first week of episodes, perhaps reflecting ratings.

Yeah, I'll say, look at the total views each video got on Nicovideo. Viewer interest started strong and after three weeks it lost 70-80% of the audience. And what's really bad is when you look at how little interest the recap episodes generated. You can pretty much guarantee that optical media sales of volume 2 & 3 will parallel volume 1, cause the guys buying it are only doing so out of obligation and compulsive behavior. Elevens are practically conditioned to buy anything they glance at.

EP01 167,244
EP02 86,547
EP03 76,289
EP04 65,217
EP05 51,225
EP06 67,321
EP07 55,253
EP08 47,854
EP09 48,620
EP10 45,546
EP11 47,337
EP12 46,746
EP13 43,977
EP14 40,556
EP15 40,691
EP16 39,665
EP17 40,841
EP18 43,177
EP19 35,589
EP20 34,312
EP21 37,310
EP22 40,941
EP23 39,759
EP24 33,025
EP25 33,041
EP26 34,357
EP27 34,107
EP28 31,274
EP29 33,413
EP30 33,288
EP31 31,854
EP32 31,307
EP33 34,995
EP34 36,150
EP35 39,577
EP36 31,868
EP37 33,490
EP38 31,708
EP39 30,539
EP40 29,476
EP41 31,425
EP42 32,196
EP43 32,218
EP44 30,162
EP45 30,201
EP46 32,298
EP47 28,285
EP48 29,193
EP49 30,013
EP50 33,787
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RECAP 01 234
RECAP 02 147
RECAP 03 133
RECAP 04 109
RECAP 05 100
RECAP 06 71
RECAP 07 70
RECAP 08 69
RECAP 09 68

[Tenchi Ryu]

Are the numbers of sales accurate? Eh? Doesn't seem that bad for  愛・天地無用！, considering 愛・天地無用！'s characters and story development over given time per episode.  愛・天地無用！BDs/DVDs aren't worth buying, I'd think, and yet some are buying them. I find that somewhat odd. . .

Yea it's pretty bad. If I remember correctly, OVA 3 an GXP were able to do about 6000ish a volume.
To give you a off topic example, xbox related products sell similar numbers to Ai and it's considered an abomination over there cause of that.

[Gaston]

Goodbye chance to ever see a new Tenchi Muyo anime series.

[WarOmnimon]

Looks like we have our confirmation that Negishi and AIC just screwed the fans AND Kajishima... in my book, anyone involved with the creation of Ai Tenchi deserves to be booed out of whatever building they walk into from now on.  The fact that they took the anniversary season ball and dropped it immediately (Which as I have said several times, no other company has done in any other recent anniversary season) is just salt in the wound at this point because we know now that the damage has been done. 

[shades of blue]

Are the numbers of sales accurate? Eh? Doesn't seem that bad for  愛・天地無用！, considering 愛・天地無用！'s characters and story development over given time per episode.  愛・天地無用！BDs/DVDs aren't worth buying, I'd think, and yet some are buying them. I find that somewhat odd. . .

Yea it's pretty bad. If I remember correctly, OVA 3 an GXP were able to do about 6000ish a volume.
To give you a off topic example, xbox related products sell similar numbers to Ai and it's considered an abomination over there cause of that.

While I can't find anymore, the numbers I saw placed volume 1-6 of OVA3 around 19-20K each and volume 7 at 10K.

However I did find this:

http://www38.atwiki.jp/uri-archive/pages/232.html
1993　2 -　12,170　1 -　*2,000　4 *3,747　17,917　*7　天地無用！魎皇鬼 第一期
1994　2 -　22,366　1 -　*2,000　4 *3,747　28,113　*7　天地無用！魎皇鬼 第二期
1995　2 -　10,197　1 -　**,537　1 *1,012　11,746　12　天地無用！ (UNIVERSE???)
2003　1 -　17,223　- -　--,---　- --,---　17,223　*7　天地無用！魎皇鬼 第三期

And the GXP novels seem to be doing better than I expected. Bumped into a post that implied novel #10 did 17K. No wonder Kajishima keeps pumping them out.

http://ai.2ch.sc/test/read.cgi/anime4vip/1400930282/235
*17,322部　14/01/18　***9日　真・天地無用！魎皇鬼外伝　天地無用！GXP　10

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UPDATE
http://dvdbd.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/%E5%A4%A9%E5%9C%B0%E7%84%A1%E7%94%A8%EF%BC%81

○天地無用！魎皇鬼 (第1,2期) 【全5巻】
巻数　初動　　累計　発売日
01巻　*,***　*,***　98.12.22 ※天の巻、1~3話収録
02巻　*,***　*,***　99.01.22 ※地の巻、4~6話収録
03巻　*,***　*,***　99.02.25 ※無の巻、7~9話収録
04巻　1,526　*,***　99.03.25 ※用の巻、10~12話収録
05巻　1,523　2,473　99.04.23 ※！(ビックリ)の巻、13~番外話,SOUND FILE収録
BOX　*,467　*,***　00.03.03 ※DVD-BOX大全集
BOX　1,063　*,***　09.09.26 ※BD-BOX


○天地無用！TV 【全8巻】
巻数　初動　発売日
01巻　*,***　99.02.25 ※TV1-4
02巻　*,***　99.02.25 ※TV5-7
03巻　*,***　99.03.25 ※TV8-10
04巻　*,***　99.03.25 ※TV11-13
05巻　*,558　99.04.23 ※TV14-17
06巻　*,***　99.04.23 ※TV18-20
07巻　*,486　99.05.28 ※TV21-23
08巻　*,568　99.05.28 ※TV24-26
BOX1 *,***　00.03.03 ※地球篇
BOX2 *,***　00.03.03 ※宇宙篇


○天地無用！ in LOVE2 ～遙かなる想い～【劇場版】
巻数　初動　 2週計　　累計　　発売日
劇場　5,314　6,346　6,694　99.08.25


○新・天地無用！ TV 【全8巻】
巻数　初動　発売日
01巻　*,***　99.12.22 ※TV1-4 ※30位圏外（1,196～*,***）
02巻　*,***　99.12.22 ※TV5-7 ※30位圏外（1,196～*,***）
03巻　*,***　00.01.25 ※TV8-10 ※30位圏外（*,346～*,***）
04巻　*,525　00.01.25 ※TV11-13
05巻　*,***　00.02.25 ※TV14-17 ※50位圏外（*,542～*,***）
06巻　*,***　00.02.25 ※TV18-20 ※50位圏外（*,542～*,***）
07巻　*,***　00.03.24 ※TV21-23 ※50位圏外（*,526～*,***）
08巻　*,***　00.03.24 ※TV24-26 ※50位圏外（*,526～*,***）
BOX1 *,***　05.10.21 ※東京立志篇、300位圏外（*,384～*,***）
BOX2 *,***　05.11.25 ※岡山望郷篇、300位圏外（1,561～*,***）


○天地無用！GXP 【全8巻】
巻数　初動　2週計　発売日
01巻　3,545　*,***　02.07.24
02巻　3,995　*,***　02.08.21
03巻　4,346　*,***　02.09.25
04巻　5,590　6,572　02.10.23
05巻　6,785　8,984　02.11.21
06巻　5,314　*,***　02.12.21
07巻　7,062　*,***　03.01.22
08巻　6,776　9,262　03.02.21


○天地無用！ 十周年記念 DVD-BOX【十秋楽】
巻数　初動　発売日
BOX　1,012　03.03.07


○天地無用！の内祝～とは言うものの、いつになるんだOVA～
巻数　初動　 2週計　 発売日
OVA　6,213　8,072　03.06.25


○天地無用！魎皇鬼 第三期 【全6巻】
巻数　 初動　　2週計　　累計　　発売日
01巻　*9,893　14,405　18,916　03.09.18
02巻　10,353　**,***　20,520　03.12.19
03巻　11,131　14,975　18,878　04.03.27
04巻　11,913　15,218　17,414　04.09.15
05巻　12,940　16,820　17,368　04.12.22
06巻　10,623　14,388　16,327　05.03.16

○天地無用！秘密鍋
巻数　初動　2週計　発売日
FD巻　5,305　6,646　04.05.26

○天地無用！魎皇鬼 第三期 プラス1「天気晴朗なれども波高し？」
巻数　 初動　　2週計　　発売日
限定　*8,608　11,282　05.09.14
通常　*1,210　**,***　05.09.14


○愛・天地無用！ 【全3巻】
巻数　初動　発売日
01巻　1,107　15.01.21
02巻　1,070　15.02.18
03巻　*,***　15.02.18